We've gotta switch to character-centric discussions over control-centric ones
Of course, what idea seems to appeal best to masses of people worried about things over which they have no control or choice and what might get them interested to learn more is very often quite different from what the core message of a philosophy, or wisdom tradition, is. And yet both can be represented quite easily. We never have to choose between them, even in a sound bite culture. "The core idea in Stoicism is that character matters more than anything else, and one of the useful Stoic tools to help us with good character is a distinction they draw between the things over which we have no control or choice, and the things over which we do. When we learn the right focus and how to use it, we can flourish with integrity." - "Ok, now a message from our sponsor."
Well said Tanner. The dichotomy of control and associated determinism is a useful idea but should never distract from the the task of living with a virtuous character. We all make choices, albeit not within circumstances of our own choosing. There ends the debate on determinism. Onwards prokopton, we have work to do!
It is a surprising answer from Holiday, considering his new book is all about how to be a better parent. But, he is pitching, so bring on the sound bites...
He either doesn't know or thinks that the DOC is a better pitch, and neither of those factors are particularly comforting.
Such a great description of the difference in views